Comments on: Model Kits: Wonderfest recap https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/ Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:07:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: jamesironwolf https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/#comment-166 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:46:00 +0000 http://www.collectormodel.com/?p=172#comment-166 I don’t see the survey so i am going by the questions i see answered here.
1) preferred size of finished kit: In scale to your other kits. Weather that ends up being 6 inches or 3 feet is fine. 1/1000 scale has been i good choice.
I always felt 1/2500 was to small and 1/350 is a bit to much money for me. But the scale is good for detail & lighting. My friend loves the 1/350 and has already got his refit and looking for and NX-01 and an Enterprise carrier.
Seems the main thing to him is that they are in scale to each other.
2) Method to achieve detail: Paint and decals. Decals for emitters,stripes,names. paint for overall colors,weathering etc.
3)New Star trek Movie: Great. I had some issues with the ship redesign & the ending. but overall great.
4) size of the new ship: There seems to be disagreements on this. see my post on to boldly go again. We (my friends and I) believe it is just abit larger than the NCC-1701-A looking at the saucer,side docking ports and windows.
5)vintage kits: loved the 1/400 D&E looking forward to seeing them in 1/1000
6)Should be released as: would like to see the NCC-1701-B & Excelsior redone with attention to detail. I would like to see the Runabout 1/72 redone with the cockpit this time.
7)smaller ships : all enterprises in 1/1000, 1/1000 reliant, defiant, Bird of prey Klingon & Romulan. I was not a big fan of the 1/2500 ships. we did get them though. Maybe if the 1st kit was redone with more detail like the C&E in the second kit.
8) larger ships: 1/350 Enterprise B? He says his dream would be the AirCraft carrier on through the Enterprise E, but this is a dream after considering the size and cost. We agree that the full line in 1/1000 would be fine.
9) what are we doing right: DETAIL and Scale. We like that that they have been done in the same scale. And the attention to detail given to them.
10) What can we improve: from what i hear , it seems there is a need to open up more to foreign markets. He says more ship stats in instruction sheets. I would like a few extra parts like in the NCC-1701 kit for variations. example the parts for the NCC-1701-D to do either series-D, Future-D, or maybe the Nebula that was based on the D.
11) ship not on the list: where’s the list? i would like to see what you’re considering. ok as above the full Enterprise line in 1/1000. 1/350 (dream) but the size and cost šŸ™ He loves it , the cost has kept me from the 1/350 sorry to say. i do have all the 1/1000 so far. would like to see the DS9 Defiant, and the WoK Reliant. we are both looking forward to the 1/1000 Akira & Ncc-1701-D

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By: eimb1999 https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/#comment-147 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:28:11 +0000 http://www.collectormodel.com/?p=172#comment-147 Favourite kit of all time eh? That’s a toughie. When I was a kid, it was the old Space: 1999 Eagle, as it had TONS of play value! However, even then the innaccuracies of that kit were glaring and I spent most of my young life trying to get it right! But I had nearly a half dozen of those growing up, so it was definitely a fave!

My favourite Star Trek models would be the Refit, of course, and the 1/350th PL model is the best Sci-Fi kit ever made for the money, hands down. But the best designs after that for me are just about any of the ships seen in the first three films, such as the Klingon BOP and the Reliant, not neccessarily in that order. I’d love to see a Reliant done in 1/350th for sure! I also liked the Grissom (Oberth class?) which is a nice departure from the norm, even though the design makes no practical sense! I can also tolerate the “Excelsior”. Sorry, but most designs that came after those first three films to me are just bloody awful.

But, here’s a question for the people who know Trek better than me… What scale is the AMT BOP kit supposed to be?

I always understood it to be a very small ship, especially as seen in the 3rd film. It had only “about a dozen officers and men” as opposed to a Federation starship which had hundreds, and the scale relative to the Enterprise certainly seems to change from shot to shot. And everyone I’ve heard has said that there’s no way that the whale could have fit into the ship as in ST4 because it was so small! My understanding is that the AMT kit would be roughly the right size compared to the 1/350th scale Refit. But maybe I’m way off! Anyone know? And can you prove it?

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By: JamieH https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/#comment-145 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:56:41 +0000 http://www.collectormodel.com/?p=172#comment-145 I have to admit that Jim Small tipped me off to the FM Falcon issues before I ever saw a built kit. I do have a knack for examining proportions and spacial relationships though. I would have figured it out on my own once I saw a kit in person.

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By: BlackBirdCD https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/#comment-144 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:27:50 +0000 http://www.collectormodel.com/?p=172#comment-144 JamieH, if you’re noticing accuracy issues like the mandible toe-in, and the radar dish on the Fine Molds’ Millennium Falcon then I’m convinced we have the right people on the job to crank out some really great Star Trek kits. Cant wait to see what’s coming down the line from you guys.

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By: JamieH https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/#comment-142 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:49:40 +0000 http://www.collectormodel.com/?p=172#comment-142 phicks, flamingakira and pstyce, thanks for answering the survey questions. We’ll be glad to add your answers to our data. Same for anyone else who wants to take a minute to answer. Your input is very valuable to us.

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By: JamieH https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/#comment-140 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:31:43 +0000 http://www.collectormodel.com/?p=172#comment-140 Akiraclass- I didn’t mean to sound defensive either. I hope I didn’t come across that way. I just know in other (mostly illustration) projects I’ve done in the past, I am satisfied with how a piece turns out then I go back and look at it a month later and I see something that I should have done better. I have higher expectations for myself. That’s why we asked what can we improve on our survey.

From what I see of the FM Falcon is that the front mandibles are parallel where they should toe in a little at the front. Also, the radar dish is too small. I had never noticed any obvious differences between the filming models of the two flicks. Maybe I just haven’t paid close enough attention. At least I’ve never done a side by side comparison. Maybe what I see as innacuracies are actually true to the ESB version while I keep the New Hope version in my minds eye. That would prove my point. Accuracy is in the eye of the beholder.

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By: psytce https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/#comment-137 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:50:53 +0000 http://www.collectormodel.com/?p=172#comment-137 Glad to hear about this from you. Since I was not able to go I would also like to add my survey answers here….

Preferred size of finished kit: 12ā€³ x 12ā€³

Preferred method to achieve detail: Paint for most things but I would like to see some stencils of some of the detail so I can use paint, but for really small detail it would be decals.

New Star Trek movie: Loved it!

Length of New Movie Enterprise: Whichever one you can get to market first!!!!!

Vintage Trek kits (Liked Most to Least): 1/2500 Ships, Enterprise Cutaway, (Galileo Shuttle, Exploration Set, Bridge), the last three are about equal in my book.

Should be released: Improved

Smaller Trek kits (Wanted most to least): Voyager, Reliant, Kelvin , Klingon Bird of Prey, Kā€™tinga, Romulan Bird of Prey, Botany Bay, Jellyfish, Galileo Shuttle, Vulcan Ring Ship

Favorite ship not on the list: 1/1000 Defiant (DS9), 1/1000 Equinox, 1/72 Delta Flyer

Larger Trek kits (Wanted most to least): Akira, Reliant, Kā€™tinga , Enterprise D, Exploration Set, Bridge Set, K-7 Space Station

What are we getting right: Listening to the customers/fans.

What can we improve? Iā€™d like to see more TNG, DS9 and Voyager Timeline ships.

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By: akiraclass https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/#comment-136 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:11:35 +0000 http://www.collectormodel.com/?p=172#comment-136 Jaime-thanks for taking the time to address my comments! In retrospect I think they came out a bit harsh but certainly weren’t directed at PL or anyone else specifically. I was interested in your comments about the FM Falcon-I wasn’t aware that there were any significant inaccuracies and they mentioned in the kit literature that it was based on the ESB version and not the one from A New Hope; not sure if that changes anything but I’d love to learn whatever I can about it. Thanks again-looking forward to whatever kit’s next!

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By: flamingakira https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/#comment-134 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:29:09 +0000 http://www.collectormodel.com/?p=172#comment-134 Hope the Wonderfest surveys in the comments aren’t terribly annoying. šŸ™‚

1.Preferred size of finished kit: ALL.

2.Method To achieve complex detail: Accurate decals.

3.New Star Trek Movie: Liked. Loved it. It was brilliant.

4.Size of New Movie Enterprise Kit: 12″ (or, to scale with the 1/1000 Constitution would be nice..).

5.Vintage Kits: 1/2500 Ships (5), Galileo Shuttle (2), Exploration Set (4), Enterprise Bridge (4), Enterprise Cutaway (3).

6.Should be released as: As-is, or improved (even just decals).

7. SMALLER Ships: 1/1000 Reliant (10), K’Tinga (8), BoP (10), Rom BoP (6), Voyager (9), Ring Ship (3), Kelvin (7), 1/350 Botany Bay (2)

8. LARGER Ships: 1/350 K’tinga (3), 1/350 Reliant (5), 1/1000 Enterprise-D (7), 1/1000 Akira (7), 1/12 Bridge Set (4), 1/1 Exploration Set (2), 1/2500 K-7 Space Station (3).

9. What are we getting right so far?: Re-release of classic and Enterprise-E and of the 1/350 Constitution. Improvement of decals and addition of aztec decals. Commitment to accuracy and communication with the modeling community.

10. What can we improve?: As of yet, nothing. I am delighted with what is out and what is to come.

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By: JamieH https://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/172-wonderfest-recap/#comment-131 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:31:26 +0000 http://www.collectormodel.com/?p=172#comment-131 phicks- Gary Kerr is considered THE guy for accurate Star trek ship reference especially each incarnation of the Enterprise. He has had access to the 11′ studio model and has taken detailed measurements etc. On our way to dinner at Wonderfest, he was telling us about his recent opportunity to document the filming model of the Enterprise 1701E. He has researched the ships, their construction materials and paint colors, etc. I understand he has an impressive collection of Star trek props and those kinds of things as well. Ask just about anybody and they’ll tell you Gary is the guy with the golden Trek information. We’re very glad he will be helping us out.

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