

Star Trek Models: 2012 Release Discussion
Round 2 Models announced at Wonderfest that we’ll be bringing back the Deep Space Nine kit in 2012. (working on a video of our presentation and hope to have it up soon) I mentioned our idea to inject it in clear plastic. Some liked the idea, some didn’t. I just took a look at the kit again today and it seems like a good candidate to do in that treatment. What say you?
I’ve seen conflicting reports about the DS9 kit scale. Some say its 1:3300, the box says 1:2500, my calculations say 1:3700. Thoughts?
If we wanted to throw in a small scale Defiant, would you rather see it in perfect scale with the Space Station or in 1:2500 to match our Cadet Series kits?
Next question is what ships would you like to see introduced in 1:2500 scale? I’m thinking Reliant, Voyager or we could go TOS and do the Romulan Bird of Prey. What enemy ships would you like to see in that scale? We wouldn’t be looking at the larger ships like Akira right now. I’m looking for subjects that we could do as kits with lower price points like our existing Cadet Series ships. The smaller they are at 1:2500 scale, the more we can do sooner rather than later.
What do you think of the little Klingon Bird of Prey and Ferengi Marauder kits that were included in the adversary set? They may be returning soon as well.
I’m all ears. The topic of the DS9 kit and suggestions for little kits is on the table. Your input on these Star Trek models counts. Let me know what you think.
Disclaimer: bringing up these questions in no way guarantees future product selections. Everything should be considered hypothetical until you see a kit on the shelves.
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Well for my two cents I would have to say that some of these
ideas are practical consindering the current economy so with
that in mind here we go;
Klingon Bird of prey 1/2500 scale from the old advisary set
“Good idea just needs to be re-tooled, original lacked detail
and looked more like a toy than a model kit. Please keep the
movable wings”. The Ferengi ship, sure why not.
DS9 Space Station clear
“Cool idea should come with mini U.S.S.Defiant to scale”.
Personal Suggestions
Klingon Battle Cruiser Movie Version 1/2500
Nebula Class Satrship 1/2500
Obeth Class Satrship 1/2500
Constellation Class 1/2500 ( U.S.S. Stargazer)
DS9 Runabout Re-released with full interior
‘Kit was big enough to have that featured should have been done”.
TOS Galileo shuttlecraft Re-release
“Original kit was way off needs a Round 2 makeover Baaaaad”.
Nebula Class Starship
“One of my favorite ST ships and a subject that can have different configurations like the DS9 Runabout”.
Early klingon Bird of Prey
“Was seen often in “Enterprise” is a fan favorite and would
go well with your NX-01 1/1000 Scale kit.
On a final note I would have to say that I would like to
see a new bridge kit, we have the 1701 how about the 1701-A
or th 1701-E, would go in good step with the soon to be
released 1/350 1701.
Also any chance of offering the 1/1000 line in clear to allow for easier lighting? Maybe make it an exclusive or something? If not, at least allow for clear window inserts?
An update on the voting after 5o posts:
Voyager – 22
Reliant – 21
Defiant – 19
Ktinga – 17
Klingon D7 – 15
Romulan BOP – 13
Klingon BOP – 11
Grissom – 10
Nebula – 10
Excelsior – 10
I think the DS9 Runabout is ok in the scale it was originally issued by AMT. But I do think it could use an interior. I always thought that was a downside to the kit, though everything else about it was fine.
I do prefer anything TOS over any other Trek stuff though. So kits of that nature will appeal to me more personally.
An updated Galileo shuttle would be welcome, if if the original AMT kit was used and altered. (just to save tooling costs).
I wonder if a new tool (TOS) scale shuttle bay, with a small shuttle, would be worthy doing? Sort of small diorama.
AMT did the bridge kit, I always wondered if a model of Engineering would be a good kit to compliment that one?
Can I just say, “all of the above?”
Phicks- Thanks for counting those up for me.
No one ha mentioned the NX-01. No love for that ship? Just asking.
Here’s a thought…why not start a purely Star Trek section of the web site? A place where all the Star Trek stuff and all the discussion about Star Trek can take place? Of course that will reduce the rest of this website by over half!
Seriously, I have nothing against the Trek fans getting what they want and I used to have nothing against Trek itself but this is getting rediculous.
Trek permeates nearly every page of this website like kudzu. The extras pages, the workbench pages…this website is over half Star Trek and it makes the other modelers feel put out the door. If Mr. Lowe wanted an all star Trek modeling company he should have built it that way.
Why not ask the car modelers and figure modelers for suggestions? Even these blog pages are overflowing with Trek this and Trek that. AGAIN: I have nothing against any modeler getting what he wants out of a kit company but for petes sake give the other guy a chance!
Jamie,
I love the NX. I wanted to build my own version of the Enterprise Lounge wall by having all the Enterprises in 1/2500 so I bought a resin version and sprayed it gold. It looks the business but it is a bit small!
Personally, I love both 1/2500 and 1/1000. The smaller scale gives you guys the opportunity to release just about every ship seen on screen, the larger gives us model makers some great ships in really good detail.
My choices:
1/2500
Voyager
Defiant
Borg Cube
Excelsior
Miranda Class (with Variants)
Nebula Class (with Variants)
Akira Class (I want to build a USS Thunderchild!)
SS Botany Bay
All Good Things Enterprise D
1/1000
Voyager
Defiant
Excelsior
Nebula Class
Akira Class
If you do decide to repop the DS9 runabout, how about producing both the TOS shuttlecraft and the Voyage Delta Flyer in the same scale?
I do love 1/350 scale. I bought 4 NX-01′s and 3 Refits when the first came out and another Refit when Round 2 reissued it. I will buy at least 2 or 3 TOS E’s when they come out – I’m just not looking forward to the shipping costs and import duties when they get here to the UK! Keep up the good work guys, I really appreciate all you are doing.
well you could do a 4-in one desk set 1/2500 scale with
the NX-01 and the following “ENTERPRISE” ships;
The Xindi Ship
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/xindi-ship2.jpg
The Vulcan D’Kyr-Class
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/dkyr-sketch.jpg
Klingon Early Bird Of Prey
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/early-klingon-bop.jpg
Or
Early Romulan Bird Of Prey
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/romulan-earlybop.jpg
That would be an fine homage to the previous Trek Desk set offerings.
fortress
Also Glow Trek kits!!! That was a neat idea with the 1701 kit, very cool, Now how about MORE! I think that there are a few
other subjects that would do well as a Glow kit for example;
origianl KLingon Battle Cruiser(Green Cloak effect)
Original Romulan Bird Of Prey(Blue Cloak effect)
klingon Bird Of Prey (Green Cloak Effect)
U.S.S. Defiant(Blue Cloaking Effect)
Well that’s my 20 cents worth anyway.
“No one ha mentioned the NX-01. No love for that ship?”
Jaime, you must have missed them. Buried in the sea of wish lists were a few mentions of the NX-01. I know I mentioned it in my response (#47). My suggestion was for a 1/2500 scale set of ships from the Enterprise show – Klingon Raptor, Romulan Bird of Prey and NX-01.
And yes, the Romulan Bird of Prey in Enterprise looked like it belonged in the Next Generation era, but it was such a cool ship!!!
Anyway, there is some love for the NX-01. Not a lot, but some.
You could always re-issue the 1/350 NX-01.
Also the NX in 2500 scale would be nice to add to the fleet of other 2500 ships. Maybe a 3 piece set with the Enterprise, Vulcan Ring Ship, and an Andorian cruiser.
I love trek, but we need some bad guy/alien ships to compliment the Federation kits.
Heres an idea:
You could make some square pieces with what looks like tubing and armor plating maybe around 4″x4″ and sell them individually or a pack in with models and you could build a borg cube as large or as small as you want connecting the squares together.
I agree with others , the larger ships would be good for 2500.
the Negh’var, Warbird, star destoryer , battlestar.
smaller ships in 2500 might be good in a combo pack like was done with
the 1701 , 1701A, and 1701B. maybe a dominion was small pack?
it could have the Defiant , KBoP, and Jem’hadar attack ship?
just an idea. As to the DS9 kit , yes it’s a bit off scale but it still looks
nice with my 2500 ships as does my 4100 battlestar. thought i would rather have them all in the same scale. a thought on the DS9 kit could the phaser
and torpedo pods be added as optional parts? as the station was rearmed for the dominion war later in the series.
I’ve read this article again. And I think as well as the Defiant being a 1,2500 scale I think there should be one in scale With the station.
Jamie, just got the 1701 Club update. Very nice. does this mean that our shirts are not too far behind?
Jamie,
I agree with “fortress” & “robert_taylor” & “derric 1968″ & “JohnE” that I am a fan of the NX-01 & would ideally like to see a re-release of the NX-01 1:350 scale.
I would also like to see a vulcan ring ship and early klingong bird of prey in the 1:1000. I just think that in 1:2500 scale the NX era ships would be too small to work with & an incredible strain on the eyes. The 1:1000 already has the NX at only 9 inches.
So there is some love for the NX era of models (especially since no one has ever really addressed that era with models before).
Jamie, the 1701 report was fascinating. Where is the appropiate place to post comments for the 1701 Club? Is it email?
jaws- not too far behind. I’m starting to sound like a broken record but hopefully next week. Sorry but it is out of my hands at this point.
BatToys- You can send comments to our contact form on our website.
I’d like a TOS Galileo shuttlecraft, but I think it needs to be an all new tooling. The old one is just too far off and small. Production cost-wise, it’s a thin shell, so not much plastic or many parts involved, and a larger kit would make a great display piece.
It might be nice to see a “Franz Joseph” series models. ADB used those as a starting point for the Star Fleet Battles game, minatures, and games since then. There is also a “Star Trek Technical Manual” based on those ships: Dreadnought, Heavy Cruiser (aka Constitution Class), Destroyer, Scout, and Transport. I know it’s not an official Trek starship series seen on screen, but they are nice designs. Other than that, I would like to see:
USS Defiant (DS9)
USS Voyager (ST: Voyager TV)
Constellation (ST:TNG era)
Enterprise-D (not molded clear)
oh yes, and a larger NX-01
I agree with msspurlock, an accurate Galileo shuttle would be fantastic – and well overdue (I’m sure you guys are working on that one).
I’m a big fan of all the shuttles from every incarnation of Star Trek. How about a Cadet Series sized triple pack with TOS, Movie and Next Gen Galileos? Or how about Klingon, Romulan and Cardassian? DS9, Voyager and NX-01?
Lots of room here for buying multiple kits to be customised especially with an extensive decal sheet.
Here’s my vote for 1/2500 releases:
* A pack with the Reliant (and options to build the variants), Grissom and Excelsior (options to build both)
* A pack with NX-01, Andorian Cruiser and Vulcan D’Kyr
* A pack with Voyager, Stargazer and Defiant
* A pack with an accurized Klingon Bird of Prey, Klingon D-7, Klingon K’Tinga (with decals for both versions) and the Romulan Bird of Prey
As individual 1/2500 kits:
* Romulan Warbird
* Romulan Valdore
* Nebula class with variants
On DS9, the clear kit is a neat idea. I have no idea which scale to use to include the Defiant, though for simplicity you could use the same one from a Cadet Serues pack.
I like Modeller Ed’s suggestion about “Cadet Series” shuttle craft. Would those be 1/72nd? I think those would be neat! Who says Cadet Series have to be 1/2500 ships?
~Sean
Just thought of a ship that looked really cool from the Voyager series, the Federation Starship/Timeship Relativity:
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/relativity-federation-timeship
further expanding….I would also like to see either a 3pack cadet series or full model kits, an Enterprise-J (from one of the ST: Enterprise TV show flash forward scenes), the Enterprise-D Dreadnought (the one with 3 warp nacelles from the last TNG episode), and the Federation Timeship Relatvity (from ST: Voyager series). Mabye this could be a “far future” series or “alternate ship verisons” series.
August 15, 2011 at 3:17 pm
I personally would enjoy seeing the Polar Lights 1/1000th starship line expanded. My biggest complaint with model starships is the varying scales which they come in, no constant scale is available. I believe the 1/1000 scale solves that problem.
I’ve built the original Constitution class, as the Constellation, plus the Klingon D-7 class of starship. I think a Reliant to go with the 1/1000 scale Constitution refit which has recently been released would be great. An original Romulan Bird of Prey would round out the previous original series ships released. Hope to see this happen. I enjoy the detail and ease of construction of your Polar Lights kits. Thanks, Russell
Dear JamieH
Personally, i don’t like the cadet series, and some suggested starships are too small for my taste…
I need more 1:1400 kits for my TNG/DS9/Voyager era starfleet collection…
I think that the 1:1400 is good for the big TNG/DS9/Voyager era Starships and the 1:1000 is good for the Enterprise/TOS/TMP era starships
I suggest for the 1:1000 line
Oberth Class (Grissom)
U.S.S. Kelvin (Star Trek 2009)
Miranda Class (Not The Reliant, maybe The Saratoga)
Surak Class (Ring Ship from Enterprise)
Andorian Kumari Ship.
And if is possible to expand the 1:1400 line…
Romulan Valdore (Star Trek: Nemesis) (Please!!!!)
Akira Class
Steamrunner Class
Luna Class (U. S. S. Titan)
Nebula Class (U. S. S. Farragut, as seen on Star Trek: Generations)
And.. What about a Shuttle series? a line of 1:72, 1:32 or 1:24 shuttles, with all the Shuttles Types, The Galileos, The Delta Flyer, the Shuttlepod from Enterprise, The Argo, The Captain’s Yacht and the Federation Scoutship (As seen on Star Trek: Insurrection).
About the re-issued items…
I need a accurate re-issue of the k’tinga.
If you made a larger kit every six month, i don’t have problems to buy it.
And a last question…
I’m from Chile… In the 2010′s earthquake, all my models falls down, i need repair my amt’s Excelsior and Defiant, for that purpose will be get new decal sheets for both to re-paint the ships… can you provide me that? how much it’s cost?
Thanks for read me… I have all your (No Cadet Series) kits… And I love my 1:350 Enterprises (NX-01 and NCC-1701 refit)
PS: Sorry if i have errors in my comments, my native lenguaje is Spanish.
Hi Usagiman- You write English quite well. Thanks for your suggestions.
I don’t know if we will make more kits at 1:1400 scale. We will likely concentrate on the 1:2500, 1:1000 and (hopefully) 1:350 scales.
Unfortunately, we don’t have artwork in our system for any kit that does not have a Round 2 logo on it. We may bring those kits back in the future at some point.
I’d like to see a “generations” kit(s) for the main adversaries.
I’ve thought about finding an old Adversary kit (or waiting for the new one you hint at). But I don’t really care about the Ferengi.
A true 1:2500 DS9 with a 1:2500 Defiant would be cool.
I’d also like to see a 1:2500 NX-01 and a 1:2500 Voyager work their way in. Maybe a 3-piece kit of NX-01, Voyager, and Defiant?
I’m disappointed about the death of the JJprise 1:2500 kit — just to complete the Enterprise collection.
Back to the adversaries — for Klingons, how about the classic bird of prey and a few generations of battle cruisers. For Romulans, there’s the gigantic TNG era warbird and then the TNG movie era cruisers, the classic warbird, and I’m sure I’m missing some, and revoke my nerd card for not remembering the actual class names
Also I bought the new cadet kits for all the Enterprise iterations and luckily I still have the stands from my previous attempts at the older kits — how exactly are people displaying the kits without them? Anyway, there was a picture in a “Ships of the Line” book that had all the generations of Enterprise docked at a space station (fleet museum?), now THAT is something I’d love to have for all of my 1:2500 models, a display stand they could all be docked around.
Oh, how could I forget the “All Good Things” Enterprise D?
If you re-pop the DS9 I think you should include a Defiant accurate to that kit. Separately you could do a Defiant in 1/1000 or 1/2500.
If you’re going to do more ships in 1/1000 how about the oft overlooked U.S.S. Grissom? If you’re doing Voyager why not The Equinox too?
I would also favor a Trek Shuttle series of releases. There are so many different shuttles you could put out. The Travel Pod, Executive shuttle, Spacedock shuttle, Delta Flyer, etc. Would it be possible to release the original concept shuttle design for the classic series?
I think Rocketfin has a good idea in trying out new Bridge kits and possibly other sets from the ships. A bridge kit for the Movie Enterprise, ST V and on, could have options parts to make it an Enterprise B or Excelsior bridge too. A Motion Picture Bridge could double as a Next Gen Battle Bridge. The Defiant had a very cool bridge design as well. Shuttlebay kits could be popular too.
Any chance of the amt klingon battlecruiser from startrek 6 being released?
I´m really glad to see that a Deep Space Nine Modelkit is in the works – seems it was the only main kit from the Star Trek Series left. I´m really looking foward to this!
And of curse the Defaint and some Runabouts (like in the original)
Small ships in 1/2500
Reliant
Regula Space Station
Excelsior
Defiant + cloaked version
Klingon D7
Klingon BOP done right
Klingon K’tinga
Ships from Enterprise Human, Vulcan, Andorian, Klingon and others
Voyager
K-7 space station
Cartoon series USS Bon Adventure and others
Ask Franz Josephs daughter for a license to do the tech manual classic style ships Destroyer, Scout, Transports, and Dreadnaught these have been coveted by collectors for years and kitbashing and high price resin doesn’t cut it.
Ask ADB for a license to do SFB’s ships as 1/2500 models getting Kzinti and Gorn ships would be cool as well as some of the variants through all the races. Having those small Klingons to fill out the fleet would be trick.
As a center piece for the 1/2500 would be a corrected DS-9 in the right scale.
Then focus on the big ships. You can keep the line running for a long time in this manner.