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		<title>By: Patrick Costello</title>
		<link>http://www.collectormodel.com/polar-lights/842-polar-lights-model-kits-1966-batmobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-1260</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 04:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jamie, I went back and re-read this post.  I don&#039;t know how I misunderstood the process.  I was probably too focused on seeing the preview of kit.  I can clearly see now that the development of this kit started in China.

Good call on the front wheel opening and you did nail the tire&#039;s overall diameter; just the wheel rims are too small.  I think the CAD had the wheel/tire diameter in proportion but both needed to be enlarged.  The rear wheel opening is obviously pinching in on the tire, too, but I didn&#039;t see it as clearly then as I do now that I&#039;ve built the kit and photographed it to match the original.  Too bad the factory didn&#039;t take that simple step before going into production.

The stuff on top of the driver&#039;s side of the dash also seems more defined in the CAD image than my kit&#039;s part did.  The CAD image looks like a fresh bar of soap with sharp corners and crisp letters and the part in my kit looks like the same bar after about 20 showers.  There were no discernible bezels around the compass or the transmission indicator lights.

Like they say, hindsight is 20/20...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie, I went back and re-read this post.  I don&#8217;t know how I misunderstood the process.  I was probably too focused on seeing the preview of kit.  I can clearly see now that the development of this kit started in China.</p>
<p>Good call on the front wheel opening and you did nail the tire&#8217;s overall diameter; just the wheel rims are too small.  I think the CAD had the wheel/tire diameter in proportion but both needed to be enlarged.  The rear wheel opening is obviously pinching in on the tire, too, but I didn&#8217;t see it as clearly then as I do now that I&#8217;ve built the kit and photographed it to match the original.  Too bad the factory didn&#8217;t take that simple step before going into production.</p>
<p>The stuff on top of the driver&#8217;s side of the dash also seems more defined in the CAD image than my kit&#8217;s part did.  The CAD image looks like a fresh bar of soap with sharp corners and crisp letters and the part in my kit looks like the same bar after about 20 showers.  There were no discernible bezels around the compass or the transmission indicator lights.</p>
<p>Like they say, hindsight is 20/20&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bats</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re very welcome Patrick. Now you can see why i&#039;m Jamie&#039;s biggest fan right now. Considering the language barrier and all else he has had to deal with to push this project through, I think he and all the guys who&#039;ve had a hand in it deserve mucho kudos for the job they&#039;ve done. Now if spring would just get here!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re very welcome Patrick. Now you can see why i&#8217;m Jamie&#8217;s biggest fan right now. Considering the language barrier and all else he has had to deal with to push this project through, I think he and all the guys who&#8217;ve had a hand in it deserve mucho kudos for the job they&#8217;ve done. Now if spring would just get here!</p>
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		<title>By: Bats</title>
		<link>http://www.collectormodel.com/polar-lights/842-polar-lights-model-kits-1966-batmobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Bats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I usually feel it&#039;s bad luck to be superstitious...but I can&#039;t leave this post at 13...I don&#039;t want ANYTHING to jinx this kit! ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually feel it&#8217;s bad luck to be superstitious&#8230;but I can&#8217;t leave this post at 13&#8230;I don&#8217;t want ANYTHING to jinx this kit! <img src='http://www.collectormodel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Costello</title>
		<link>http://www.collectormodel.com/polar-lights/842-polar-lights-model-kits-1966-batmobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 01:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Bats!  Yeah, that really looks great.  And that looks like the 390FE under the hood.  ;)

I can&#039;t wait for this one!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bats!  Yeah, that really looks great.  And that looks like the 390FE under the hood.  <img src='http://www.collectormodel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for this one!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bats</title>
		<link>http://www.collectormodel.com/polar-lights/842-polar-lights-model-kits-1966-batmobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-827</link>
		<dc:creator>Bats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a link to the page you need. The &#039;curbside&#039; you mention is the chassis for the snap kit.

http://1966batvehicles.yuku.com/topic/3969]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link to the page you need. The &#8216;curbside&#8217; you mention is the chassis for the snap kit.</p>
<p><a href="http://1966batvehicles.yuku.com/topic/3969" rel="nofollow">http://1966batvehicles.yuku.com/topic/3969</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Costello</title>
		<link>http://www.collectormodel.com/polar-lights/842-polar-lights-model-kits-1966-batmobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-826</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 05:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Bats!  Where are the photos of the glue kit&#039;s chassis?  I only saw the snap kit and it had awkwardly short leaf springs and big turbine ducting for exhaust -- perfectly adequate for a curbside but nothing like you described.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bats!  Where are the photos of the glue kit&#8217;s chassis?  I only saw the snap kit and it had awkwardly short leaf springs and big turbine ducting for exhaust &#8212; perfectly adequate for a curbside but nothing like you described.</p>
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		<title>By: Bats</title>
		<link>http://www.collectormodel.com/polar-lights/842-polar-lights-model-kits-1966-batmobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>Bats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patrick- 

 The #1 Batmobile, was originally built as the 1955 Lincoln Futura showcar. Built in Turin, Italy by coachbuilder Ghia in 1954 the Futura was mounted on a then &quot;experimental&quot; chassis.  Hess and Eisenhardt of Cincinnati provided the chassis. As limousine and ambulance builders they were accustomed to building chassis for unwieldy cars. They built the Chassis under the Kennedy limo as well as the Mark 2 hardtop-retractable, experimental car. H and E had six 1953 Lincoln chassis, all modified to what would become Lincoln&#039;s standard chassis for 1955 and up. Two of the six chassis were to be used for the Mark 2 project but one of the planned cars was scrubbed due to budgetary constraints. The second chassis was sold back to lincoln for seventeen thousand dollars and the Futura was built on it. There were tubular steel cross members added to the chassis for strength (at Hess and Eisenhardt)but other than that the Batmobile has pretty much a 1955-56 Lincoln Premier chassis. Looking at the proto-photos, that&#039;s just what they&#039;ve done. I have some pics of the #1 cars chassis and they are close enough to appease this perfectionist! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick- </p>
<p> The #1 Batmobile, was originally built as the 1955 Lincoln Futura showcar. Built in Turin, Italy by coachbuilder Ghia in 1954 the Futura was mounted on a then &#8220;experimental&#8221; chassis.  Hess and Eisenhardt of Cincinnati provided the chassis. As limousine and ambulance builders they were accustomed to building chassis for unwieldy cars. They built the Chassis under the Kennedy limo as well as the Mark 2 hardtop-retractable, experimental car. H and E had six 1953 Lincoln chassis, all modified to what would become Lincoln&#8217;s standard chassis for 1955 and up. Two of the six chassis were to be used for the Mark 2 project but one of the planned cars was scrubbed due to budgetary constraints. The second chassis was sold back to lincoln for seventeen thousand dollars and the Futura was built on it. There were tubular steel cross members added to the chassis for strength (at Hess and Eisenhardt)but other than that the Batmobile has pretty much a 1955-56 Lincoln Premier chassis. Looking at the proto-photos, that&#8217;s just what they&#8217;ve done. I have some pics of the #1 cars chassis and they are close enough to appease this perfectionist! <img src='http://www.collectormodel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Costello</title>
		<link>http://www.collectormodel.com/polar-lights/842-polar-lights-model-kits-1966-batmobile-update/comment-page-1/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 03:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Jamie!  I looked at some photos of the real car after posting here and I think you nailed it.  Did you ever think of consulting with Coker Tire for dimensions?  They reproduce old tires in obsolete sizes.

Will that realistic chassis have the original Lincoln Futura engine or the later, swapped in Ford FE 390?  Either way is a good answer to me but I&#039;m still curious.  I guess the Lincoln engine would be a slightly better answer since I don&#039;t think it&#039;s ever been done in 1:25 but there are loads of FEs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jamie!  I looked at some photos of the real car after posting here and I think you nailed it.  Did you ever think of consulting with Coker Tire for dimensions?  They reproduce old tires in obsolete sizes.</p>
<p>Will that realistic chassis have the original Lincoln Futura engine or the later, swapped in Ford FE 390?  Either way is a good answer to me but I&#8217;m still curious.  I guess the Lincoln engine would be a slightly better answer since I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s ever been done in 1:25 but there are loads of FEs.</p>
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		<title>By: JamieH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamieH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patrick- re: the tires. It was a little bit of both. The tire sizing system has changed since the 60&#039;s so we couldn&#039;t nail down the exact dimension of the tires used on the show. We chose the dimension of a current tire size we felt was close but once installed on the digital mockup, visually they looked too small compared to photos of the car. So I basically put a photo of the car next to one of the digital images and advised the size change of the 1:25 scale tire.

The glue kit will come with a realistic chassis. We have done our best to incorporate eyewitness reports, the consensus history of the car and comparable period specific Lincoln vehicle chassis&#039; to create as close to real life as we could. No photos of the underside of the car from the era exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick- re: the tires. It was a little bit of both. The tire sizing system has changed since the 60&#8242;s so we couldn&#8217;t nail down the exact dimension of the tires used on the show. We chose the dimension of a current tire size we felt was close but once installed on the digital mockup, visually they looked too small compared to photos of the car. So I basically put a photo of the car next to one of the digital images and advised the size change of the 1:25 scale tire.</p>
<p>The glue kit will come with a realistic chassis. We have done our best to incorporate eyewitness reports, the consensus history of the car and comparable period specific Lincoln vehicle chassis&#8217; to create as close to real life as we could. No photos of the underside of the car from the era exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Costello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 04:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About resizing the tires...

Were the wheels resized, too, or just the tires?  Was this done arbitrarily based on &quot;looks right&quot; or done accurately to 1/25 scale?

Will the chassis of the glue kit be true to the real Lincoln concept car or be a fantasy chassis featuring a jet engine as seen on the snap mock-up?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About resizing the tires&#8230;</p>
<p>Were the wheels resized, too, or just the tires?  Was this done arbitrarily based on &#8220;looks right&#8221; or done accurately to 1/25 scale?</p>
<p>Will the chassis of the glue kit be true to the real Lincoln concept car or be a fantasy chassis featuring a jet engine as seen on the snap mock-up?</p>
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